02:07:35 Hi shrini 02:10:26 In localStorage everything is stored like key-value pair like dictionary. in the addressbook - as we discussed if i am taking some key value as id and the data as value. 02:12:07 For ex. localStorage.set(1, "name, emailid, contactno") instead localStorage.set("someName","emailid, contactno) 02:13:06 but the search option is based on the key - searched innet, could not find any search based on the values right side. 02:14:32 so here i have the option to store like name as the key and rest data as value. so that i can make search based on the name. 02:17:58 when name duplicates, let me add name1, name2, etc. For ex. set("shrini1","11237878,shrini⊙kc,kanchi" -- for 2nd user with name shrini let me add like set("shrini2","768569867,name⊙mc,tirunelveli") 02:19:03 So now when i make a search on key value similar to that - i may get the data --- i have to explore it. 02:20:52 or if u know any best option in localStorage please advise. 02:23:59 i am not sure whether i conveyed correctly or confused you - sorry for the long message also 02:25:14 please advise if u want me to correct the way of conveying message also 02:32:38 mohan43u: i have restored windows boot manager using windows 10 live usb 02:32:59 Now i can able to boot in windows 02:33:59 shrini`: hii 02:49:09 hariharan: did you disabled legacy boot in your bios? 03:47:52 i cant see the log 03:59:23 Thanks tea 04:08:38 hello OffGrid365 04:15:32 https://github.com/sudiptoChy/JS-HTML5-localstorage-CRUD 04:15:37 https://sudiptochy.github.io/JS-HTML5-localstorage-CRUD/ 04:15:53 sugi should explore these links 04:16:02 will update in evening meeting too 11:32:10 shrini`: Good morning Shrini. I have made a small progress. Updated my progress in my blog. 11:32:41 I will not be able to join today stand up as I need to go to office. I will join tomorrow. 11:32:49 Thank you and have a great day everyone! 13:33:55 hi shrini 13:34:41 i wrote a blog on python 13:36:08 https://dev.to/anish_kumar_eea79f528747d/pythonthe-programming-language-2ob8 13:41:04 Good 13:41:14 Hello all 13:41:18 Good evening 13:41:58 Good evening 13:42:36 good evening 13:42:41 Just now opening checking your links 13:46:32 good post anish 13:46:40 are you writing in phone itself? 13:47:09 no i used windows to do it temporarily 13:47:13 thank you shrini 13:47:19 ok 13:47:50 i also uninstalled arch linux and installed it again using the installation guide 13:47:59 nice 13:48:13 thanks 13:49:46 write that experience with step on your blog 13:50:00 whatever you do, learn with linux, take notes and publish in blog 13:50:12 it will become a great asset slowly 13:50:21 https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/ 13:50:25 ok shrini 13:50:45 I am writing here for 18 years 13:51:11 all my learnings, growth, tech friends are results of writing here 13:52:00 wow 13:53:19 hello mohan43u 13:53:33 amotbeli 13:53:43 sugi: please share your updates 13:54:00 hi shrini, hello everyone 13:55:04 sugi: check these links 13:55:05 https://github.com/sudiptoChy/JS-HTML5-localstorage-CRU 13:55:21 https://sudiptochy.github.io/JS-HTML5-localstorage-CRUD/ 13:55:36 check these link now and share your thoughts here 13:56:00 ok shrini 13:56:55 https://blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/ 13:57:02 good to read the blogs sethu_payilagam 13:57:08 keep writing 14:01:42 ask here if you have any quesions sugi 14:01:56 anish: why did you choose arch? 14:02:05 arch linux? 14:02:11 shrini i have seen it 14:02:29 good sugi 14:02:40 I have read your questions 14:02:54 i wanted a very minimal system which i could customize to my will and do many ordinary tasks manually 14:03:13 ok 14:03:45 if possible, after some time, install GUI 14:03:53 ok shrini 14:03:59 then give a talk about arch linux in kanchilug meet 14:04:13 are you attending the weekly meetings? 14:04:28 no i've not started yet 14:04:28 https://www.freelists.org/list/kanchilug 14:04:38 subscribe here for the mailing list 14:04:44 saw the output and got idea about the design--code having a look now, then will update you 14:04:49 https://www.freelists.org/list/ilugc 14:04:53 join here too 14:05:04 most of the kanchilug meetings are online 14:05:11 you can attend on sunday evenings 14:05:12 ok shrini 14:05:26 https://www.youtube.com/@TamilLinuxCommunity/ 14:05:31 https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/ 14:05:34 https://kaniyam.com/ 14:05:40 check these sites too 14:05:47 ok shrini 14:06:45 i checked the faker repository to access the tamil names am i supposed to give fake = Faker('tamil') 14:07:16 yes 14:07:30 Already there are few tamil names available 14:07:36 just keep on adding more names 14:07:45 ok shrini 14:07:47 check how many tamil names are there already 14:07:54 then add more names 14:08:01 https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/all_tamil_nouns 14:08:09 we have a huge tamil names collection here 14:08:20 you can get from here and publish to faker 14:08:33 ok shrini 14:09:22 what would you recommend for tamil editors i haven't used before 14:12:42 tamil editor? 14:12:48 there is no such thing 14:12:59 you can write tamil on any editor, just like english 14:13:15 so i have to install the locale 14:13:15 in linux, we have ibus - a keyboard driver for languages 14:13:28 we have to install ibus and m17n packages 14:13:34 ok i will check 14:13:34 but they need GUI 14:14:04 i will do it in windows for now then 14:14:12 its only for a few days 14:14:17 ah 14:14:24 dont goto windows 14:14:28 for any reason 14:14:35 just install GUI in linux 14:14:44 you have terminal there also 14:14:48 so you wont miss anything 14:14:56 ok i will do it :) 14:15:19 the more you use linux for all tasks, the more learning will be there 14:15:35 ok shrini 14:15:46 i will install sway soon 14:18:04 anish: shall we try this? 14:18:18 can you share info about 4-5 CLI tools daily here? 14:18:29 that you use 14:18:36 or learn from internet and share here 14:18:44 ok shrini 14:18:51 once you posted here, you can edit and publish in your blog too 14:19:01 so that it will become a daily learning stuff 14:19:11 ok shrini 14:19:32 is it fine if i start very simple like cd and ls also 14:21:03 yes 14:21:06 that also fine 14:21:08 https://www.freelists.org/post/ilugc/One-Day-One-Command-TREE 14:21:23 we had "One day one command" series in our mailing lists 14:21:38 daily one command also fine 14:21:58 start writing about them and send to ilugc and kanchilug mailing lists too 14:22:25 our friend dhanasekar sent for around two years 14:22:33 all the commands are here 14:22:34 https://github.com/tkdhanasekar/linux_commands_examples 14:22:48 you can continue the same service 14:23:08 so commands that are not in the list or should i repeat 14:24:03 you can repeat 14:24:22 ok shrini 14:24:33 the more we learn about the commands, the more good life we can have, with computers 14:24:42 we can automate anything with CLI 14:24:49 which will give more powers to us 14:24:59 install the package "tldr" 14:25:09 ok shrini 14:25:10 it will give good basic intro about the commands 14:25:20 ok shrini 14:25:34 you can just use the same information along with some personal touch 14:25:58 but some of the commands the explanation will be very less right 14:26:08 thats fine 14:26:17 what ever you learn, share 14:26:30 ok shrini 14:26:31 tldr covers most of the important options 14:26:43 man can give extensive docs 14:27:08 i've seen in videos that man command gives an explanation 14:27:17 and --help is also useful 14:27:22 yes 14:29:14 amotbeli: is there any update from you? 14:31:32 sugi: any questions? 14:32:15 hariharan: hope you have good improvements on the disks 14:32:26 why many people are joining and quitting so quick? 14:32:30 me also can subscribe in the mailing list? 14:32:56 sugi: amotbeli can you try joining from here too ? 14:32:57 https://web.libera.chat/gamja/#kaniyam 14:33:04 and stay for some time there 14:33:29 just to check if there is any issue with that gamja web client for IRC 14:33:40 I joined from there as shrini-testing 14:33:47 no issues so far 14:34:02 sugi: yes 14:34:11 ok shrini 14:34:12 sure shrini 14:34:14 all we discuss here is for all of us 14:34:49 ok shrini, i think i am getting some idea, let try on my own and will update you tomorrow 14:34:59 ok 14:35:13 go through the js code there 14:35:17 and the functions used 14:35:24 you have to replicate the same 14:35:36 https://t.me/tamillinux 14:35:46 join here too if you are in telegram 14:36:06 just let me explore more about it, but keep the chat is on until shut down 14:36:15 ok shrini 14:36:20 there is a postgresql training for free in tamil, planned by syed jafer 14:36:25 stay tuned for further updates 14:36:26 that code is js and jQuery 14:36:40 yes 14:36:49 hope you are learnig jquery too 14:37:08 completely i have no idea about it 14:37:22 jquery and bootstrap will make normal site to great looking site 14:37:43 start learning jquery and bootstrap 14:37:54 you can do all the magics with them on a web applicationb 14:38:00 let me try shrini, but i think i will take some time as these are very new stuffs for me 14:38:16 yes 14:38:25 take your time for learning new things 14:38:41 learning the basics is like learning the kitchen ingredients 14:38:55 it will take time to know about all the things at a super market 14:39:09 slowly we can learn and start using them one by one 14:39:09 yes shrini 14:39:26 very soon, we will be using tons of things at kitchen and home 14:39:29 same in coding 14:39:56 got it shrini 14:40:40 let me surely will give try 14:42:30 ok 14:42:34 actually we are all grateful to you 14:42:43 ah 14:42:48 nothing like that 14:42:53 you are giving your precious time and guidance to improve us 14:42:55 we all are learning together 14:43:29 I got all the mentoring from ilugc and kanchilug people 14:43:42 i must agree with sugi 14:43:58 entire open source community is based on learning and helping from each other 14:44:18 we have 100000s of software available as open source 14:44:37 all of you doing a great job which is much much appreciatable in this commercial world 14:44:51 millions of people around the world are contributing all the time 14:45:38 I am doing my part as a vote of thanks for all the software/knowledge/job/friends I got from the open source world 14:45:52 first of all thanks to Muthu Sir for introducing such a great platform 14:46:02 i also agree with sugi 14:46:08 ஊர் கூடித் தேர் இழுப்பது தான் நாம் 14:46:09 அனைவரும் செய்வது 14:46:37 anish may not see the above in terminal 14:46:45 yes i can't 14:46:58 all the FOSS things are like, temple festivals 14:47:13 where all people join together and do all the works 14:47:20 yes. true 14:47:30 that is nice 14:47:39 a time will come for you to give back in your own way 14:47:50 you will find and share your knowledge 14:48:07 actually, you all started with your blogs and code in git 14:48:57 yes shrini, i am improving myself to contribute more. I believe I will do, because of my commitments getting slow 14:49:13 thats fine 14:49:25 its always a long game 14:49:48 yes 14:49:57 just decide to share your knowledge in all possible ways 14:50:11 sure 14:50:29 blogs/code/training/podcast/youtube video/give talks in open source meetups/conferences etc 14:50:38 do what ever is possible 14:50:51 slowly we will be doing all in few years 14:51:09 ok shrini 14:51:28 in reality, by doing all these, we are helping ourself first 14:51:36 to learn more and in deep 14:51:48 which will help to grow in career 14:51:59 along with the other benifits for the community 14:52:19 ok 14:52:25 https://kaniyam.com/receptionist-to-machine-learning-engineer-nithyas-story/ 14:52:48 nithya started write blogs posts in tamil in kaniyam.com 14:52:51 long back 14:52:55 yes I read this on the first day 14:53:02 then we published them all as ebooks 14:53:08 good 14:53:10 still she is learning and writing 14:53:31 for any interview, she just skims all her books 14:53:35 its good still she is doing. 14:53:37 and clears the interview 14:54:08 learning, writing, making videos, teaching 14:54:25 all these are easy ways to become good at tech topic 14:54:41 thats why we ask every one to have a blog and write daily 14:54:51 it will take us to good heights 14:55:00 ok shrini 14:55:11 amazing 14:55:19 the reading/writing of text in IRC will help to train our eyes to read the text 14:55:54 you all find your own ways of contributing to the FOSS world 14:56:08 magics will happen automatically 14:56:27 just keep learning new things and share the knowledge to all 14:56:31 shrini where should i post the 4-5 commands in one day 14:56:34 ok shrini 14:56:51 anish: you can start with one command also 14:57:19 ok shrini 14:57:26 share here, then in kanchilug/ilugc mailing lists, in your blog, TamilLinuxCommuntiy telegram channel 14:57:43 and in any other social media where you are 14:57:54 mailing list/blog are essential 14:58:08 all others are optional, and based on your time 14:58:29 i'm not a very active person in social media so i'll do it in the other channels 14:58:43 thats fine 14:59:16 sugi: life will give its own daily tasks 14:59:36 the more we get older, the less time we will get for ourself 15:00:18 but, even if we get 10-20 mins daily, we can do many things 15:00:35 start small always 15:01:21 thank you shrini 15:03:30 i am demotivated myself beacuse of taking lot of time to complete task 15:03:45 it happens 15:04:10 especially in new stuffs 15:05:31 but wanted to practice to get over that, will do it 15:06:59 thats normal for all of us 15:06:59 continuous pracitce only i have the one option now - because of long gap -- all like new 15:07:23 yes, we need to put more time and efforts on learning new things 15:08:07 will do shrini 15:10:26 thank you shrini, will meet here tomorrow 15:10:27 i need to leave. have a good day/night everyone. 15:10:43 okey amotbeli sugi 15:10:47 thanks for joining 15:11:34 shrini i want to test some things using cd so i will have to log out 15:11:54 ok anish 15:11:56 bye for now 15:11:59 i will make the blog and put the url here 15:12:04 ok 15:12:08 bye for now 15:22:09 hi shrini its a very silly doubt but i want to make sure that i'm absolutely right before publishing it 15:22:35 there are some directories which restrict acess even if you are a sudoer 15:22:59 for eg: cd /root gives you permission denied 15:23:23 is there a way to use sudo to somehow get in without becoming root to do it 15:47:34 mohan43u: my system currently booted with UEFI 15:47:34 But if i turnoff legacy support it won't boot 15:47:34 I don't know why its happening 15:47:34 From the beginning i tried gpt partitionied disk to boot from uefi mode only but without legacy support it won't boot 15:49:09 Enabling Legacy support means the bios is not using UEFI, it is still in MBR 15:49:25 But my disk is gpt 15:49:47 Ther is no mbr partition 15:50:04 EFI system partition is the first one 15:50:39 And currently i have boot into Windows which shows me boot mode as UEFI 15:50:44 hariharan: then why it is not booting if you keep only UEFI in bios? 15:50:52 Not BIOS 15:51:11 I Don't know the root cause 15:51:36 hariharan: do you have live usb? 15:53:20 I have ventoy with Ubuntu 20.04LTS and windows 10 22H2 15:53:47 hariharan: do you have spare usb? 15:54:09 No spare usb RN 15:55:06 hariharan: did you install your windows using this ventoy? 15:55:10 Why is ther any problem with my USB that blocks the UEFI boot? 15:55:39 I have installed this windows using rufus 6 months ago 15:56:07 Now i Used ventoy to create live usb of windows 16:01:53 I don't know about these, is these ventoy, rufus recommended way to install windows? 16:02:52 What is the official documentation says about installing windows? 16:06:30 Windows says that just create bootable usb stick only. There is no steps available from official documentation. 16:06:30 When we search about tools for create there rufus, ventoy, etcher comes in action 16:07:28 Rufus is my favorite it works good in my experience. 16:07:55 I installed ubuntu and windows 10 recently using it 16:08:23 But this time i tried ventoy 16:08:38 hariharan: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/install-windows-from-a-usb-flash-drive 16:08:54 hariharan: they clearly explain what to do here. 16:17:55 From your pov i can get native method of creating the bootable drive for windows can resolve my direct UEFI booting problem? Do i understood right mohan43u ? 16:19:34 hariharan: Its a try, it may work or maynot, Rufus/Ventody both modify the original iso and do some crazy things which is not a good thing in my opinion 16:19:48 ^s/Ventody/Ventoy/g 16:24:02 Yes i agree 16:24:55 I also tried other booting tools like etcher and unetbootin but both not worked well in my case 16:26:23 Okay mohan43u Once my new ssd received I will try the native booting method as you said and let you know about it and heartful thanks for the support u gave in debugging 16:26:53 hariharan: its all learning 16:34:17 I am very curious to know how you get to know this much linux stuffs do you have seperate KB article collection for you ? 16:35:19 hariharan: I'm using linux as my primary OS for a long time mate, when you use something for a long time, you bound to learn about it a lot. 16:38:39 ✌ 16:54:44 After repairing the EFI partition now i tried turnoff the legacy support it works now i booted successfully into Windows 16:57:38 When i have connected my old hard drive it is mbr disk so i think i have enabled that for booting the old hard drive from the installation i have not ran single hard drive so that may cause the booting problem without legacy before 18:28:55 hariharan: always follow official documentation, if it doesn't work, then you look for alternative ways. there is a reason those people write documentation for us. 18:33:24 I have successfully installed the grub and its showing the ubuntu in boot manager UEFI 18:34:30 installed grub? or ubuntu? 18:35:24 Using my live usb ubuntu installed grub for the ubuntu os i have installed 18:35:38 ok 18:35:50 is ubuntu booting from the ssd now? 18:36:41 While trying to boot kernel panic message comes with exit code 0x00000200 18:37:22 try recovery mode in advanced options 18:37:25 No ubuntu is not booting 18:37:55 There is two more kernal entries with recovery mode i have trying one by one 18:38:24 what is the kernel version? 18:40:07 5.15.0-124-generic 18:40:20 ubuntu 20.04? 18:40:29 5.4.0-26-generic 18:40:47 These are shown from advanced menu 18:41:06 Yes ubuntu 20.04 image i have installed 18:41:14 try booting from 26-generic 18:41:31 if it doesn't work, try recovery from the same 26-generic version 18:42:41 Both are failing mohan43u 18:43:02 Same kernal panic message shown and booting process stops 18:46:15 in grub screen, type c, then type `ls` what is the output you see, is it showing gpt anywhere? 18:50:33 Yes its showing gpt 1 to 8 18:50:57 Gpt5 has ubuntu root directory 18:52:05 My root partition is xfs file system does any problem with the file system 18:52:50 what is the exact name of gpt5 (hd0,gpt5) something like this? 18:53:41 Yes this is right 18:54:26 ok, from grub prompt type 'ls -l (hd0,gpt5)' it will return uuid, do you see the same uuid in 26-generic entry like root=? 18:55:45 In ubuntu by default it boots 5.15.0-124-generic kernel 18:56:16 what? 18:57:02 Same uuid refered in --set-root and linux if block mentioned in grub boot entry definition 18:58:19 the line starting with "linux" should contain root=UUID= do you see the same uuid which is return from `ls -l (hd0,gpt5)`? 19:00:04 Same uuid 19:00:11 I have verified it 19:01:39 remove `quiet splash` and type `nomodeset i915.modeset=no nouveau.modeset=no` and see if you able to boot 19:05:37 Is there any space between i915.modeset=no nouvau.modeset=no 19:06:49 hariharan: yes, leave space 19:08:22 Not booting mohan43u 19:09:30 From the stack trace there is a syntax error in conf/conf.d/zz-resume-auto line 1 19:09:44 There after it goes to kernal panic 19:10:15 do you see full stack trace in your screen? 19:10:19 or partial? 19:11:16 I will update the stack trace in forum 19:13:05 did you install ubuntu freshly or trying to boot the ubuntu you installed before in this ssd? 19:14:21 https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/t/ubuntu-messed-up-the-grub-configuration/2640/22?u=itz_mr_evil 19:15:23 I have not freshly installed today it was installed two days back iam trying to boot it 19:16:51 why are you doing this? do you have anything important in that ubuntu? 19:19:55 That is bare ubuntu done system update installed some packages like lightdm mysql server and other some other software installed 19:21:01 After sudo apt upgrade not able to boot i think 19:21:40 did you synced this ubuntu from your hdd? 19:22:29 No this is fresh installation i have created partion for / ,/home /swap 19:23:02 but this ubuntu was installed before you fully switch to UEFI in bios, am I right? 19:23:21 and /home partition uses xfs file system 19:23:35 Yes right 19:24:06 If i re install the booting issue may resolve 19:26:27 hariharan: afcourse, it will go away, but this is a problem in initramfs creation 19:26:42 hariharan: it should be fixable without re-installation 19:28:21 Tomorrow I'm full day available. 19:28:42 hariharan: ok, see you tomorrow 19:28:46 You completed diwali purchase? 19:30:13 I will try fixing the initramfs and boot then 19:30:24 hariharan: ok 19:30:27 Good night mohan43u