hello anish

hello sethu_payilagam

hi this is my first day here

welcome

give your introduction

hello sugi

hi shrini

Hi Shrini. Good morning

i'm a 3rd year student at iiitp computer sciencee engineering

anish: good

in which city the college is?

do yoiu have any blog?

pune

og nice

oh nice

no i'm not very good at writing so i don't have blogs

then you are good at what ?

asking just to know more about you

i'm interested in coding and programming

sugi: can you share here, why we need a blog?

good anish

i wouuld like to contribute to open source projects

have you ever done any coding projects?

nice

well, to show our ideas and progress

more over its the evidence that we are working on something

just one till now i created one for my friend to automate billing entries for his college

i used python and mysql

thanks sugi

nice

is it a commerical project or free one?

free

it was for my friend as he is the treasurer of his college

ok

if possible, check to publish the code in gitlab or github repository

i just started to learn github i will soon do it

create a blog in dev.to

ok

and write about your daily activities, learning notes etc

you can read all our blogs here

once you published your first blog, share url here

sure i will do shrini

will add it there

ok shrini

here, we meet daily 7-8 and run our standup meeting

to share the daily progress on the projects we do

and get inputs

ok shrini i will do the same

after 8, there may be general tech discussions

you can stay here as long as you can

after 8, just skim once in a while

text chat is slow progress

thank you for telling me i will stay longer

please go and create your blog at dev.to now

shrini i designed one page only -just css html itself took some time

and write your first post

on what topic should i write

just write about IRC and what do you know about iot

ot about python or about the billing project you have done

s/ot/or

sugi: thats fine

checking your blog posts

nice works

ok i will start now

today i am planning to add some functionalities

ok

HTML/CSS are time taking things

explore bootstrap css framework

now side by side exploring about localStorage and doing

and use it

it will magically give a professional look for our projects

still now in text editor only typed all

and for the student marklist project done in java,

store the details in a text file

extend the same as to read the data from csv file

calculate the total, results and write all the data to another csv file

oh ok

expore about JDBC, and then read and write to any database

thats a homework program

but could expand as you say

anya programming task is good

they are for learning

the more we expand a simple idea, with more features, we can learn how big software built with one small idea

/expore about JDBC, and then read and write to any database// Sure will do shrini

what u said is true. let me try my level best. and thanks for the valuable information

sethu: yesterday talk was very good sethu.

for any data related projects, first read from input, show the output in screen

then read from csv and write to csv

them read and write to database

then, add a web interface

ok shrini

then add unit test cases

then add REST API

then add automated testing using selenium

then write Dockerfile to convert this as a container

this is how a software is developed

so, the more you can go for the marklist or address book or billing or any other projects, the more things we can learn

once you explore all these, the same is for all the 1000 future projects

very useful information shrini. thank you so much

will follow that, let me save all these in a file also in my pc

many things told here may be new

yes

we can learn one thing at a time as we do more projects

noting to scare

yes on the whole when i see a bit scary

sugi: Thank you so much! It is indeed my first ever presentation. Even in office I am poor at presenting or preparing a presentation.

Thanks to Shrini and Muthu sir :)

actually it was very nice, did not feel like first presentation.

Shrini, regarding today's update. I am yet to complete the billing application by connecting to the database. I will try to complete it today

dont think that we have to do everything, mentioned above

we can add one thing at a time

doing these will give tons of learnings

so learn slow and steady

sure shrini

thanks for the encouragement seriously

now let me explore localstorage

these all are like different ingridients in kitchen

with some 10-15 items, we are making all our daily food

yes

we are learning cooking slow

one dish at a time, at the same time, learning about new ingredient/coooking process etc

once we are good with one dish, we goto next

coding is the same

but to achive one task at least 3 and more than that we are learning. anything like one language or stuff which handling all?

yes

even in cooking, hot water is the only thing that we can make it one sigle item

:)

:)

even to make tea or coffee, we have multiple ingrediants

some people use instance coffee powder

some of us, go to long process on making filter coffee and grinding things for masala tea

same thing in coding too

yes true

on learning cooking, we will be wondering why so many process, why so many ingridiants

but we will realise that there are no 1000 ingredienats and 1000 process

they are all into few bunch of stuff

same into coding

so, just learn the basics and do the coding daily

we will learn many things quickly

ok shrini

will try my best

sethu_payilagam: thanks for the nice talk

happy to see that you got a linux desktop to show

here is the post for it

you can make it a a series of talk

write in your blog about the talk

and the experience you got

with the video/slide linj

link

anish: what OS do you use?

i use a dual boot of windows and linux

right now i'm using the linux terminal to use weechat

wonderful

from which group, you got to know about this IRC meeting?

thank you

i have some friends in who study in paylagam

interesting

do you know tamil ?

i'm from chennai only but got my college placed in pune

ok

good to know

that even in college days, you started to use linux, terminal, weechat and IRC

read this on free time

so anish , what are you thinking on your next project?

subscribe to the calendar here from computer

and attend the possible online events

i'm not sure i'm a beginner what project would you recommend

do you have any linux users group in pune?

no i started using linux recetly i'm not aware of any groups

but i like it a lot that it has a terminal based interface

ok

i will subscribe to the calendar and surely will read the articles

check in meetup.com and any related tech groups

check this

requirement

ok shrini

it is just building a static website

with json file and few html fixes

try this, if you like to do any web static website project

checking on a project idea to do in python

check this

this is to add more tamil names to the faker library

this is to collect important people birthday and announce them in tweet, toot and other possible social media, automatically

i'm sorry my network got disconnected i had to log out and join again

Sorry Shrini. I had to switch between office machine and this.

thats fine

Sure, i will follow your input and will share whatever i am learning as part of this effort

Thanks again for everything!

no worries anish_ anish

we have all our chats here logged at ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/kaniyam

you can read there anytime

ok shrini

i'm new to html so i will explore and then do the projects

anish_: that website project is just to create a json file

sure will do that

the above websites comes by one single json file

we need to create similar websites for many authors

take your time and explore if you like websites tuff

stuff

sure will dho that shrini

if you want to go more with python for now, explore ther other two project idea links provided

and

these are not only for anish

anyone can pick anything and work on

i will try both

so once if i finish address book, can i choose anything from this also?

yes

sethu_payilagam: what is your next project?

new project or extending your current one?

if you are working on any of the projectidea here

leave there a comment that you are working on

so that we can know

and give an update there on once in week atleast

so that all can know the progress

we can see many ideas are hanging in air

for someone to pickup

I am done for today

ask any questions

I feel that I am only writing here more

expecting you all to write too

so that it will be more interactive

if possible, bring your friends here

it is a open to all channel

shrini, i am making name as key and value as some jason data like email, contact number and city

you can bring your collegues, friends, relatives, anyone

sure shrini

sugi: give a sample

anish_: goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/14/w…rc-internet-relay-chat-even-in-2020

localStorage.setItem("name", string)

read my blog post on IRC

here string means JASON.string(array) array is having 3 values - email, city, contact number

ok shrini

can i make in this way?

give a sample entry

if its like that i cannot duplicate names as it is the key

just idea only not coded exactly. localStorage.setItem("shrini","9749379996, kanchipuram, shrini⊙kc")

sugi: good. add a column "id"

increment it for each entry

so that you can have multiple people with same name

ok shrini

hariharan: hi

new project or extending your current one? - I will complete the ongoing one and will take up new one Shrini

on sethu_payilagam

in IRC, you can use tab completion to write nick names

just type se and TAB, it will fill as sethu_payilagam

ok ok. I was looking for that option. :)

and also i miss the reply option like in telegram and watsapp. But not a big deal

:-)

thats fine

we can understand the answers, even if you dont quote

ok Shrini

try to learn emacs

it will help to build your own knowledgebase, a second brain, with all plain text

using org-mode

with all information in plain text, you can keep the data, in private git

and use it your lifetime

we can discuss about that in someother day

hariharan: you fixed your disk issues?

hi shrini i finished my blog

i did it in my mobile as i installed the linux distro without a desktop environment and only the terminal interface to get used to the commands

anish_: you installed linux distro in your mobile without desktop environment? termux?

how can i exchange information from my mobile and my linux device

no i installed linux on my laptop

anish_: ooh, ok, misunderstood

anish_: which distro?

arch linux

anish_: cool

to share the link i'm not sure how to get it to my linux device

just see mobile and type the url here

ok shrini

how long you are using linux os ?

for about 2 weeks

for over 2 months i was using the windows subsystem for linux so i wanted to try it for real

ok

then setup GUI also

so that you can use it for all your work/play/entertainment

how much RAM do you have?

8 gb ram

ok

then go with connamon or gnome

good start on the writing

ok shrini i will check them and install them

shrini`: bro, he is in arch, what is the point of using cinnamon/gnome when he is able to install arch, he should install sway

thank you shrini

thank you ffor making me realize i can write

added your blog here - blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz

keep writing regularly

on your learnings with arch

arch linux will give tons of learnings

document them all here

ok shrini i will do it

on what i learnt from arch linux

if you never used GUI in linux, then start with cinnamon or xfce or gnome

then explore tiling window managers like sway or i3

as mohan43u mentioned

but i want to keep the gui minimal as i want to use the terminal more

ok

then, go for sway itself

ok shrini

it will help to open firefox and do some browsing etc

but it is mostly terminal based

ok shrini i will install it today

anish_: which method you used to install arch? archinstall?

yes archinstall

anish_: nooooooooooo....

anish_: thats not how you install arch!!!!!

its my first time i did'nt know

how do you do it

anish_: wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide

anish_: this is how people who want to use arch should install

anish_: archinstall is for people who already learnt arch and don't want to go through it again and again

i will check it

anish_: when you boot iso, contains the guide as a text file in your home directory, use it if you don't have a internet during installation

i don't have much on my system i don't mind uninstalling and installing arch again

i will try it

anish_: learn each and every step of what you do, because that is what learning during installation means.

ok @mohan43u

thanks for the info

it was my first time in a group like this and i like the support from the people and the interaction here

thank you so much shrini and mohan43u

i will join again tommorow and share my progress

anish_: old school irc culture mate, tradition 😀

i don't get it

in IRC, we help each other

anish_: you said you get support in this channel right? that is how it is from the 80s

i think the last character is an emoji i don't get the full context

it was a smiley :-)

oh i get it thats nice

on the other side, if you like to stay in terminal linux for few more days, it s good

learn more CLI tools

write program

ok shrini

learn git

learn emacs

the CLI only linux will give more distraction free learning environment

i'm learning to use bash script to make some small commands that make my usage easier

learn `ed` <The Text Editor of Unix> 😀

good

i'm using nano right now

i will learn about ed also

ed , then emacs

ok shrini

anish_: nano -> good, vi -> better, emacs -> best, ed -> insane

so i have to try vi first so i don't miss out on much?

you can get all weechat logs here ~/.local/share/weechat/

anish_: no, ed first, then vi, then emacs

ok shrini i will copy then link

just get to know on what ed and vi are

ok shrini

then you can make emacs as your living place

:-)

that is cool

so ed is more minimal

shrini`: you forgot neovim brother? how dare you? 😁

orgmode in emacs is for lifetime

all others are editors

so its not just an editor?

but emacs and orgmode is for buliding knowledgebase, TODO list manager and can do more

shrini`: >>all others are editors<< I bet you can say this in TLC without triggering firestorm 😁

you can take notes, make TODO items, chat in IRC, hear music, browse internet

with emacs

that is cool i will defenitely learn emacs soon

mohan43u: on editing tasks, all editors are good. even nano is good

no question on that

but emacs provides more tools for life

I use ERC , an irc client within emacs now

using orgmode to manage my TODO list for 3 years

with all entries in one single text file

so you use emacs to communicate

yes

that is awesome

no other editor can give all these extra bells and whistles

i was trying various todo list managers for many years

some went on paid mode

some vanished as the company behind was closed

some were good, but cant export

shrini`: what? you paid for a software? which one?

finally found the plaintext way of orgmode in emacs is best for me

my previous companies for few tools

it sounds like a whole another universe inside linux

tried taskwarrior - a cLI todo list manager

then for notes, tried joplin cli

anish_: inside cli

for calender and periodic reminder, wanted to write something with python

then, found emacs provides all the thing I wanted with orgmode

along with these, it acts like text editor too

:-)

no other text editors provide these features

i will try it

thank you everyone it was awesome today

i will join again tommorow

mohan43u: comparing emacs and other editors is like comparing a full kitchen with a knife

there are so many knifes, for different purpuse

but, a whole kitchen is more than a kinfe