hariharan: how are you staying back in irc?

sethu_payilagam: how are you staying back in irc?

I hope mohan43u uses a remote server + tmux + weechat

shrini: yes

Good morning Shrini.

I am using Pidgin client and I do not close the window after our session. Not sure if it is because of that.

yes sethu_payilagam that the reason

happy to know that you are staying back on IRC all the possible time

please do the same

join other channels like #ilugc #dgplug #ubuntu #emacs

and any other free software you like

check for their irc channel in google or their website

being in irc channals itself a good contribution

Sure Shrini. I will do that

hi shrini

I went out after my class and to attend this meeting came early.

Hello all

Good evening

goog evening shrini

sorry first of all, i did not do, feeling guilt

but started. now itself

Ah, now issues

No need to ask for sorries

Life will keep is super busy always

yes true

and addressbook can i make like few pages - for adding,editing, deleting or can i make in one page like add and show on the list

Hi Shrini. Update for today: I was successful in installing the postgres in my linux machine. Created a new database, table to hold the store items. From Python I am able to connect to the DB and fetch the items in the form of dictionaries as you mentioned.

these should i make the design on html, css, javascript and localstorage right?

Pending Tasks: complete the functionality done using csv and include the PDF feature along with Bill value in words

sugi: for addressbook, have mutiple pages

for each CRUD operation

yes sugi . use them all

awesome sethu_payilagam

thanks for the efforts

hope you are writing blog posts on these too sethu_payilagam

ok shrini

sugi: your project may take few days. dont try to complete in single day

do incremental development and blog the progress

ok shrini. i am going to start now, and online also, if i have any doubt let me ask

sure

you can stay here as long as your computer is on

no need of quitting after the status updates

ok

Here is the post for initial development, Shrini. reachmesethu.wordpress.com/2024/10/…o-connect-and-retrieve-data-from-db

I have made the changes you mentioned in the blog post as well.

thanks

happy to read all your writings here blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/p/i

sugi: if you are spending more time on learning java, nowadays, you do the project in java also

ok shrini

so that it will be easy for you to learn one language with more handson

even a command line application in java also fine

I see from your blogs, that you are into java nowadays

yes shrini - class homeworks

once i finish this, let me try in java too

oh ok

its your call

make sure you feel comfortable on doing projects

dont add any pressure

in head

and shrini everytime when i join in this channel, i am changing my nick name as my full name appears

the more relaxly we do coding, the more we can do better

no shrini. thatswhy i cannot contribute everyday coding to kaniyam

but i am trying my level best - atleast the full connected time and some extra time trying to do for kaniyam

sure. thanks

/the more relaxly we do coding, the more we can do better// True

/set irc.server_default.nicks nick1,nick2,nick3

/save

oh ok

try these commands in weechat

amotbeli: hello

let me quit and try it and will connect again

please share about your project

hi shrini

i modified the code to scrape the download urls. except the program keeps getting timed out.

hello amotbeli

we need all the metadata in json

once the json is ready, we can parse the json to get only the urls, as a seperate code

check this url

this has no download link

beacuse of this, the program fails

can you add exception

wow, sure, i'll take a look

should have added the exception in the first place

getting this error

for all, amotbeli is doing a webscrapping project, to collect the books metadata from tamildigitallibrary.in

for any webscrapping project, we need the below features

1. expect failures

2. add configurable time delay for accessing each page

3. once a failure happened, on the next run, it should resume from where it stopped working. store the completed urls in a seperate temporary text file, check that file, before processing any new url.

if a new url, is not on that file, then only we should access it and process the content

by doing these, we can make the system robust

always seperate the configuration, from the code

for this project, we can have url, timeout, result_json file name in a config.ini file

so that the user can change the values in config.ini on next runs

if we let any new user to change anything, in the code, they will add extra enters, extra charecters

and it will break the code

we can not troubleshoot from remote

check here on how to set and handle the config.ini

4. always use exception handling

thank you shrini. will do.

btw is it just me or coming up with variable names is hard for all beginners?

i'm sure there are many guides already available. i just have to go and read them.

Hi Shrini. One doubt on the task that you gave yesterday. Is there a limitation at this point to use/import limited modules to learn the fundamentals properly before moving ahead or Can I explore the program using pandas?

sethu_payilagam: you can explore anything

you can use any available python library for the tasks

no need to stick only with the standard libraries

ok Shrini. Thank you

PDF export will be interesting to see

Sure Shrini. Equally excited to explore. :)

thanks for joining the IRC sessionbs

how do you feel?

is it fine to continue here?

or do you need any video chat like jitsi?

do you feel slow or exhaused here?

whom u r asking shrini - me

quesion is for all

this is different kind of experience, which i like

no need of any video, i am very comfortable with this

:-)

its my opinion

thanks

So far so good Shrini. Definitely missing the video or audio interactions(which we are so used to these days) :) but still interesting to keep up with our legacy mode.

thanks

the more we read/write the text, the more clarity we will get in our thinking

keep reading and writing

sure

Sure

I am moving to cook. will be away for soem time

s/soem/some/

we can meet onb monday

let me online till i shut down my system

:)

sure

thanks for the today session

wats special shrini?

stay here

:)

Ragi semiya

Enjoy! Happy Friday & weekend! Talk to you on Monday, Shrini!

its nice to hear that you people are cooking

I am the default cook at my home for many years

Though nithya helps often

:) happy for you people

how staying online in IRC is benefecial to IRC?

You can read what others discuss

Not all channels are logged

Join #emacs #ubuntu #dgplug channels

ok shrini

And other channel for any open source software

No need to sit and wait for any content in irc

Just do other tasks

sure

When closing, just have a skim in irc

ok thanks shrini

let me continue other work but will be online.

I have just logged in irc through irccloud it make persist my session. I just completed two days convo RN

Oh

That's nice hariharan

I have no other clients to connect irc channels pidgin works good and iam not comfortable with it

Hi from pidgin

Ok

Try weechat

The more CLI tools you use, the more comfortable for the system and the user

GUI tools add load always

i need to migrate my entire system to ssd there after i can think about installing other softwares

my hardrive is wearing

hmm

yes, ssd is super fast

i have opened a thread on tlc forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/t/mi…ng-a-windows-currently-running/2625 on migrating hdd os to ssd how to move packages and other configurations on the fly is there any methods without copying the entire hardrive content

i think no one not interested on the migration

hariharan-pidgin: >>no one not interested on the migration<< you already have a plan from AIs, what kind of interest you expect from TLC?

I Won't believe AI 100% so asked opinion on the people who using the same environment as well as their previous experience on migration

I don't have additional hard disk to backup my current data and do experiments and find the best for me

hariharan-pidgin: I don't use ubuntu (or debian based system), In Arch, I just rsync every file from previous disk to current disk, change the systemd-boot configuration file to point to new root, change fstab to point to new root, and that it. reboot will straight to into my new device.

hariharan-pidgin: it should also work probably in debian based system, but never tested

i have asked in kanchilug meeting to parameshwar file system canbe changed to xfs or zfs for ssd like he told

hariharan-pidgin: you can rsync on any filesystem, it doesn't matter which filesystem you use for your ssd

i have not decided yet which one is to use

hariharan-pidgin: rsync is basically like copy file from one place to another place. The underlying filesystem on source device and destination device is not a big issue.

mohan43u i have used rclone

rsync is alias for rsync

?

Rsync is good for files copy

okay

rsync -arv source destination

Will copy all the things

how to put different partitions /dev/sda is my older linux installation /dev/sdb is my new installation from your message it can be done rsync -arv /dev/sda /dev/sdb like can do syncing the files

hariharan-pidgin: no, you need to mount the partitions first

new partition is mounted by default due to it has os now i need to mount the old partition

is there any order need to be kept for configurations then binary or binary then configuration

hariharan-pidgin: here are the steps I can think of,

hariharan-pidgin: buy new nvme disk

hariharan-pidgin: plug it into your current system which is running in your old disk

hariharan-pidgin: format the new disk with your preferred filesystem

my system board is sata complaint ssd is not possible os installation is need to be done with USB Stick

hariharan-pidgin: you need a new OS on the new disk?

new os with current settings and software (Hard drive to SSD is the change

hariharan-pidgin: in that case, rsync method which I said will not be useful to you. I thought you just want to migrate your current system to new disk

If board don't support ssd, then how will you use it for os?

my board is supports sata ssd

which is working good and has windows 10 in it

Ok

Just sync old /home to new /home

a Good News : open-tamil-php bare minimum is successfully published on packagist

use composer require hariharan/open-tamil

Super

utf8.py file only completed 80%

documenting one function one bugfix a day

what abt /etc , /bin /local and other folders

bye all

hariharan: you should install fresh Ubuntu on the new ssd disk

Then rsync all home folder files to it

You can install the packakes separately

Go for latest os version

Okay shrini-irccloud I'll try and let you know

Ok

GN