11:28:25 <sethu_payilagam> Hi Shrini. Good morning
11:33:56 <sethu_payilagam> I have completed the department store application and updated the blog. I will not be able to attend the 7-8 session today. 
11:34:10 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you and talk to you tomorrow.
13:36:08 <sugi> hi shrini
13:38:07 <sugi> just gone through little about localStorage
13:39:58 <sugi> its quite interesting, when the application runs-session variable and cookies may get created-had the idea.  but in browser saving the data is completely new for me.
13:51:53 <Sakthivel> Hello sir, My name is Sakthivel, and I am currently enrolled in a Python full stack course at Payilagam Software Institute. I am eager to enhance my skills and take on challenging projects to further my learning.
13:51:53 <Sakthivel> I have a foundational knowledge of HTML, CSS, SQL, and Python, and I am looking for guidance as I embark on building a project. I would greatly appreciate your mentorship in this endeavor.
13:51:53 <Sakthivel> Thank you for considering my request. I look forward to your insights and guidance.
13:55:47 <shrini> hello sugi Sakthivel
13:56:05 <shrini> Good to know about you Sakthivel
13:56:15 <shrini> do you have any blog with your learning notes?
13:56:19 <shrini> share the blog url here
13:56:34 <Sakthivel> sure sir
13:56:38 <shrini> sugi: write a blog on your learning about localstorage
13:56:53 <shrini> Sakthivel: in IRC, no need of sir/madam etc
13:57:02 <shrini> just call by name
13:58:08 <sugi> shrini can i take some time to do it, as I have some other learning also
13:58:44 <sugi> now i am learning localStorage only, once i finish let me start blog, then addressbook app.  Is it ok?
13:58:47 <Sakthivel> https://blogsforyousakthivel.wordpress.com/
13:58:47 <Sakthivel> this is my blogs 
13:59:55 <shrini> sugi: yes. take your time
14:00:10 <shrini> the order is fine sugi
14:01:48 <shrini> good blog Sakthivel
14:01:51 <shrini> change the blog theme
14:02:18 <shrini> to any other, so that we can see the blog post content on the main section of the home page itself
14:02:35 <shrini> in your current theme, the blog posts list is in the very bottom
14:02:50 <shrini> are you using fish shell Sakthivel?
14:04:12 <shrini> added all your blogs here - https://blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/p/i/
14:04:26 <shrini> so that we can read easily on a single page
14:04:39 <shrini> all blogs provide RSS feed
14:05:00 <shrini> we can have desktop RSS feed readers or web based feed readers
14:05:24 <shrini> with them, we can add all the blogs and read them all on a single page 
14:05:46 <shrini> Sakthivel: are you working on any project?
14:08:31 <Sakthivel> srini: thankyou for visit my blogs sure i change the theme
14:08:31 <Sakthivel> i just attend the meeting in tamil linux community meeting so i write some detail about fish shell but i'm not using fish shell.I need more knowledge about fish shell.
14:10:52 <shrini> ok
14:11:15 <shrini> have you tried all the things you have written about fish?
14:11:28 <sugi> shrini for our required blog updates, desktop RSS feed readers should get installed in our sys?  any particular company's, its listing so many
14:11:43 <shrini> if not, please write everything from your experience
14:11:58 <shrini> dont, copy/paste from any documentation or chatgpt
14:11:59 <Sakthivel> Shrini: I haven't worked on any projects previously, but I have created a portfolio page for the front end.
14:12:11 <shrini> you can give links for the docs for further reading
14:12:21 <shrini> ok Sakthivel
14:12:33 <shrini> share the link of the portfolio page
14:14:00 <sugi> shrini for our required blog updates, desktop RSS feed readers should get installed in our sys?  any particular company's, its listing so many..like Wired, zapier, Chrome WebStore etc
14:15:57 <shrini> we can install a desktop application 
14:17:55 <Sakthivel> Shrini: I am eager to learn more about Linux and the Fish shell, and I am committed to mastering both. I have gained some knowledge about the Fish shell through meetings, and although I focused on my full stack course afterward, I found that understanding these tools is very beneficial. I also have a strong appreciation for open source software
14:18:44 <shrini> liferea is a good desktop rss reader
14:18:53 <shrini> search in your software center for rss
14:18:59 <shrini> and explore other tools
14:19:21 <shrini> newsboat is a terminal based feed reader
14:19:42 <shrini> good Sakthivel
14:19:49 <Sakthivel> Shrini: https://sakthivels.neocities.org/Sakthivel%20Portfolio/
14:19:50 <Sakthivel> my portfolio link this in basic level need to improve
14:20:29 <sugi> ok shrini thanks
14:21:41 <shrini> Sakthivel: if you like the static website, explore about Hugo
14:21:58 <shrini> which is a static site generator with tons of themes
14:22:27 <shrini> with simple markdown based text files, we can create good websites
14:22:43 <shrini> https://nithya-duraisamy.surge.sh/
14:23:00 <shrini> this is done with hugo and hosted at surge.sh
14:23:11 <shrini> from a git repo, it can be deploy
14:23:28 <shrini> go you have git URL Sakthivel?
14:23:36 <shrini> s/go/do
14:25:08 <shrini> sugi: search for "Raven Reader"
14:25:13 <shrini> looks nice
14:26:33 <Sakthivel> Shirini: sure i will chech the hugo and surge.sh
14:26:34 <sugi> ok
14:28:42 <Sakthivel> Shrini: Yes I have a git url and i  have knowledge in gitlab and github
14:30:49 <shrini> share the URL here
14:30:49 <sugi> installed Liferea, but Raven Reader is not found in Software Manager - from browser we should download?
14:31:12 <shrini> liferea is fine
14:31:19 <shrini> just start using it
14:31:27 <shrini> add all your friends blog URLs there
14:31:51 <shrini> for wordpress, the feed url is  https://BLOGURL/feed
14:33:03 <sugi> actually i was searching something like this, to see all of my friends blog at one place, thought i could able to find it wordpress.
14:33:20 <sugi> Luckily i got the answer, thanks shrini
14:33:27 <shrini> :-)
14:33:40 <Sakthivel> Shrini: I'm considering creating a university admission webpage project and would love your feedback on that. Additionally, I’m planning to develop two separate projects: one focused on the front end and another on the back end. Do you think this is a good direction, or do you have suggestions for something more unique?
14:34:19 <shrini> univ admin is good project to start
14:34:29 <shrini> do you know python and databases??
14:34:45 <shrini> if so, learn flask framework and start with that
14:34:58 <sugi> let me sign out shrini, tomorrow i will join.  thanks for all the valuable information and guidance
14:35:40 <shrini> ok sugi
14:35:43 <shrini> thanks
14:35:54 <shrini> Sakthivel: explain more on your project idea
14:37:00 <Sakthivel> Shrini: Recently my trainer start the session "how to connect python and database(SQL Lite) and get data", So I have some basic idea.
14:37:30 <shrini> share the data you want to collect and strore
14:37:39 <shrini> share on the application features and design
14:37:47 <shrini> i will be back in ten min
14:39:22 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: beside this knowledge sharing meeting, what OS are you using?
14:39:59 <Sakthivel> I use LINUX Mint
14:44:45 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: nice. good to know.
14:45:57 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: you are in chennai?
14:51:29 <Sakthivel> Shrini: My plan to  University Registration Web Page is designed to facilitate the admission process for new students by collecting essential details such as name, qualifications, and the degree program they wish to apply for. This information will be securely captured and stored in a database using Python, incorporating a password validator to ensure the integrity and security of user credentials. In addition to the registration functi
14:51:29 <Sakthivel> onality, the webpage will showcase the university's achievements, upcoming events, milestones, and the number of courses offered. A dedicated professor login feature will allow faculty members to view application forms and confirm admissions, enhancing the administrative efficiency of the registration process. This project aims to create a user-friendly and comprehensive platform for both prospective students and university staff.
14:52:14 <Sakthivel> mohan: Yeah I'm in chennai
14:53:22 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: So, you go to Payilagam Office for your learning?
14:55:28 <shrini> Sakthivel: can you write a detailed project plan document ?
14:55:46 <shrini> with all the static pages information, all form designs?
14:56:13 <shrini> how many pages will be there?
14:56:23 <shrini> on each page, what content will be there?
14:56:35 <shrini> on each form, what fields will be there?
14:56:44 <shrini> capture all these in a document
14:56:53 <shrini> add the required database design too
14:57:03 <shrini> share all these in your blog itself
15:00:31 <Sakthivel> No, I have idea only.Do you think this is a suitable idea for my current skills? I plan to work out the details in the future, but I want to ensure it's something I can realistically achieve.
15:01:50 <Sakthivel> If you think this project is achievable, could you please guide me on the next steps I should take?
15:03:37 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: do you have time (or in other words, are you willing to spend time)? if yes, then nothing is impossible.
15:06:04 <Sakthivel> definitely I'm willing to spend time. 
15:06:20 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: encouragements apart, how confident are you with your current skills? you said you know HTML,CSS, SQL and Python, may be try to start writing small programs to get confidence in these things first
15:07:15 <Sakthivel> Sure, I will do.
15:07:31 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: something like centering a jpeg picture in a html page with 20% white space on all side, irrespective of the viewport size.
15:08:09 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: means, If I change the browser resolution, the white space percentage should not deviate.
15:08:37 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: If you can achieve this first, then you are pretty good at HTML and CSS
15:09:04 <Sakthivel> I completed all this topics 
15:09:23 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: do you have the code somewhere?
15:10:24 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: keep your practice in github/gitlab/codeberg somewhere. you never now how much useful they will become
15:10:34 <mohan43u> ^s/now/know/g
15:10:45 <Sakthivel> My code is currently stored locally and not on GitLab
15:11:32 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: learn version control and start using git hosting websites.
15:13:07 <Sakthivel> I completed version control system but github is currently having some basic codes
15:15:31 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: thats ok, keep pushing all your practice code to remote git.
15:16:11 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: with the project idea you have, you need to build your own confidence on the components you are going to create, to achieve the confidence, practice is the only way to get confidence.
15:16:44 <Sakthivel> Yeah i understand that's my mistake
15:17:55 <Sakthivel> Thank you for your valuable time @mohan @shrini
15:18:00 <mohan43u> Sakthivel: there is nothing wrong in aiming for a project like yours, but we still need to learn the basics to achieve that.
15:18:24 <Sakthivel> Sure i will do properly
15:20:42 <shrini> no need of @ in IRC
15:20:45 <shrini> just type name
15:20:49 <shrini> thats enough
15:21:33 <Sakthivel> okay
15:22:56 <Sakthivel> Let me leaving the chat,i will connect tomorrow
15:23:10 <Sakthivel> thank you shrini
15:24:38 <shrini> Sakthivel: start doing the univ admin project as a command line project first
15:24:51 <shrini> with postgresql as datastore
15:25:08 <shrini> once it is done, then add the web layer
15:25:19 <Sakthivel> sure shrini i will do
15:25:21 <shrini> start with a design document for the command line application
15:25:30 <shrini> what are the inputs required
15:25:38 <shrini> number of screens
15:25:49 <shrini> data required
15:25:52 <shrini> db design
15:25:59 <shrini> write them all in your blog
15:26:05 <shrini> write in detail
15:26:18 <shrini> then only you will get clarity on the idea
15:26:56 <shrini> once the plan doc is written in details, we can implement the code easily
15:27:41 <hariharan> Hi I'm  just trying out irc client for android
15:27:59 <shrini> what client do you use hariharan?
15:28:22 <hariharan> Irccloud available in playstore
15:28:30 <shrini> ok
15:29:55 <shrini> I think it can hold some messages even if we close the app
15:30:11 <hariharan> Recently i have read some kanchilug blogroll post that were great 
15:30:25 <shrini> link ?
15:30:31 <hariharan> Yes email verification required 
15:30:54 <Sakthivel> I appreciate your guidance, Shrini. I will create documentation and write a blog about my project. Thank you for your valuable time and for clarifying how to approach it.
15:32:25 <hariharan> For blogpost or irc client 
15:33:09 <shrini> // Recently i have read some kanchilug blogroll post
15:33:09 <shrini>                   that were great//
15:33:15 <shrini> for this
15:34:12 <hariharan> Sure I will share
15:36:47 <hariharan> https://kanchilug.wordpress.com/2009-activities/
15:40:51 <shrini> oh yes
15:40:59 <shrini> those are interesting days
15:41:51 <shrini> my brother arulalan and his friends built an wonderful community
15:42:25 <shrini> we had weekly inperson meetings 
15:42:32 <shrini> with 40-50 participants
15:42:45 <shrini> in temples, grounds, and friend's houses
15:43:10 <shrini> translated ubuntu manula in tamil
15:43:17 <shrini> did many hackathons
15:43:28 <shrini> contributed to gnome, kde translations
15:43:56 <shrini> cotributed to spoken tutorials project from IITB
15:44:16 <shrini> hope we can bring those good days again
15:44:21 <shrini> with more such events
15:45:50 <hariharan> Sure 
15:48:14 <hariharan> One Pakistan dev contributed on my foss event aggregator icfoss website he scrapped for my project 
15:50:08 <shrini> thats nice
15:50:24 <shrini> thats is the beauty of the free/open source culture
15:50:46 <shrini> all in a sudden, we will get many hands to work on the projects
16:04:42 <shrini-weechat> hariharan: how is the open-tamil-php is going?
16:04:52 <shrini-weechat> do have any queries on that?
16:06:14 <hariharan> I have started documentation  for UTF8.php and documentation 
16:07:02 <hariharan> Unitesting in my blog 
16:09:01 <shrini-weechat> great
16:09:57 <shrini-weechat> https://blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/
16:10:07 <shrini-weechat> dont see your blog on these here
16:16:14 <shrini-weechat> hi kaartic 
16:16:19 <shrini-weechat> thanks for joining here
16:16:41 <shrini-weechat> feel free to share your thoughts anytime, while we are discussing with the newbies
16:17:18 <hariharan> I have not published yet will try to complete before weekend 
16:20:09 <shrini-weechat> fine then
16:20:24 <shrini-weechat> I thought there is some issue on freshrss
16:21:13 <hariharan> No upto 20 oct my blog post were there that's  the last i published 
16:35:41 <shrini> ok
16:35:55 <shrini> do you have any query on open-tamil?
16:36:06 <shrini> I saw some questions on TLC forum
16:36:19 <shrini> we can discuss them tomorrow evening here
16:36:34 <shrini> hope it is too late for you now
17:11:08 <kaartic> hi shrini-weechat thanks for welcoming me :-)
17:11:32 <kaartic> will definitely try to help whenever possible
17:16:44 <kaartic> I'm just not sure I'll be able to make myself available around the scheduled time die to work timing and post work travel
17:45:38 <shrini> thats fine kaartic
17:45:51 <shrini> thanks