hello sugi

hi shrinihi

if any typo error after sent the message, then we can't correct or edit right, as its relay. am i right?

correct

we can not fix the typo, can not edit the previous text

just tipe correctly

s/tipe/type

got it

scary to type without spellcheck. is this how life was back in the day?

:-)

yes

but, it will come by practise

and its ok to have some typos/errors in chat

as it is very casual

no need to worry much on that

yeah, got it.

i installed nano, but did not start practice

ok

and ed i searched in firefox, cannot find it

start with nano. thats fine for now

sugi: i am practicing nano

create a file called diary.txt

write your daily journal there

another file as TODO.txt

note down all your todo list there

ok

another as notes.txt, to capture all learning notes

here new buffer means new file

am i right?

by where do you see the word buffer?

in nano?

I think only emacs has buffer

create those 3 files

update them daily

create a new private repo in gitlab

cmommit and push to repo daily

in top with white highlighter, nano 7.2 on left side and in center New Buffer

in some 6-12 months, these 3 files will be your asset

ok shrini, let me do

yes. there new file = new buffer

if you open existing file, it will show the file name there

ok

will it open only text files? can we open markdown files too?

makrdown is text file only

learn markdown

it will help to handle the plaintext files with little formatting

we can export markdown to html or pdf using pandoc

hello GowriR

share your updates

Hi Shrini

okay, got it

i had read those txt logs which you shared earlier

i got to know about mailing list guideline, IRC in general how it works and project mentoring

nic

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did you take notes while learning these?

did you write blog with those notes?

we need daily blogs with your learning notes

are you working on any development project idea?

sugi: what is your next project after the calculator/

?

u said address book

yes

what is the plan for that?

yes i took notes , but i didn't post in blog,

GowriR: ok. but publish the blogs daily

it should become a habit

sure shrini

sure i'll update my daily learnings in blog

sugi: where will you store the addressbook data ?

sorry i just thought like html css only... like calculator.

so could u please explain more about it

like in what way i should do, then i could explain what i can.

there is a thing called LocalStorage

recent browsers have SQLite database inbuit

we can use that to store any data using JS

explore this

ok

so in java i could do this address book?

if you know java, start with calculator

with sqllite

and then addressbook

do both the projects in both the languages

but one at a time

for now, do the addressbook with javascript itself

do u mean java and javascript (with localstorage for db)?

using LocalStorage as a db

JS => localstorage db

java => sqlite

GowriR: what is your project status?

what are you working on?

shrini i have completed calculator

java and javascript are not so similar (they only have relashionship in their names, thats all). learning in-depth javascript is way different than java. I suggest to keep a open mind while learning javascript if you are coming from java background

i didn't start addressbook

ok

so shrini from tomorrow let me try for addressbook in javascript with localstorage db. First let me collect the info reg it.

if any difficulties let me ask, please guide me

இறைஊ

sure

GowriR: share the repo link for calculator

and the blog link about that

Good morning Shrini

Sorry I was caught up with my office meetings

I have completed the simple calculator app and posted the same in my blog

Please let me know the next steps

thanks shrini. so shall i leave?

sugi: sure

sethu_payilagam: good. share the repo link and blog link here

good

i haven't posted it shrini, i'll share tomorrow

what is the repo link? Shrini

ok GowriR

i tried to post the code as it is in the blog but the alignments are changing. So kept the screenshots for now

sethu_payilagam: publish the code in gist.github.com

and embed the code link in your blog

so that it will show without any formating issue

Sure Shrini. I will do that now and update here

gist is for small codes

shrini shall i leave now? i'll come with my update tomorrow

if your project goes into bigger or multiple files, create repository and push to it

learn git

sure GowriR

thanks for joining

keep writing

sure shrini, Thank you for your time

sethu_payilagam: now create a project - billing application for a grocery store

define the items and prices as a dictionary

get item number and quantity as input

Sorry Shrini. This is the first time using the repo. I have created login and got into to the github. what should i do next?

in w while loop, till the itemnumber = 0

sethu_payilagam: dont worry about the repository for now

just use gist.github.com to store code snippets and embed in blog

read above for the project idea of billing application

learn about git later

Sure Shrini. I will do it. Tomorrow I have to go to office. I will join again on Thursday. I hope I will complete the next assignment by then

thats fine

take your time

read this quick and easy book to learn python

Sure Shrini. Thank you, again!

give some time daily for reading this and share the reading progress here

For sure

sethu_payilagam: what topics have been covered the python classes so far?

is it online or offline class?

online Shrini

We have covered all the basics and started with oops concepts

file writing and reading?

was it completed?

not yet Shrini. But as part of my office work I did explored that part

blog post updated with the embedded code. Thanks again Shrini

ok

good then

for now on the billing application, define the prices as a dictionary

later, read the price data from a CSV file

Sure. I will try that.

it is nice to read about what happens behind the scene

and about a lot more hacks than i am used to

:-)

amotbeli: what IRC client do you use ?

use weechat - CLI client

or any desktop client like Quassel

i am using weechat

super then

we feel like science fiction movie hackers, to chat in terminal

haha yes

it is also very zen. with no bells and whistles like pics, emojis, reaction gifs etc.

true

the plaintext is best for eyes and mind

amotbeli: what? who said no emoji in terminal? ☠ 😁

do see that emoji amotbeli?

mohan43u: oh no!

emoji are fine

amotbeli: emojis are valid unicode characters now

but others?

shrini: i do see the emojis

the other social media are filled with images, GIFs, videos

nowadays we see only videos everywhere

mohan43u: good to know

which is not easy to get the content

shrini: i am beginning to see the appeal of plaintext

this site has good articles on text based tools

the more text we read/write, the more clarity of thoughts we can get

will check out the site

I am seeing many students and youth struggle to read any article

or ask any question forum

they are fine to ask over a zoom or jitsi meet

but, if we ask them to write on our TLC forum, no one asks

they have a huge fear on text

to overcome that fear, I hope these daily IRC discussions will help

let us see on how it goes

yeah true

this reminds me of a satirical article i read on the onion

share link

shrini: somebody was asking help about linux installation in our TLC telegram in tanglish, but he/someone-from-admin-team deleted it after few minutes. poor guy.

deleting that tangalish is fine

shrini: I was about to reply to him asking him to put a post in TLC forum

we can not read or answer any question which is not tamil or english

shrini: thats a hard take, you are too stubbon for today's generation :)

we give two language support. is that not enoguh ?

I have few 2k kids joined our team, who are sending email in tanglish

even the jira tickets have tanglish

shrini: your choice of language is too tough to learn

shrini: god dammit :)

what they practise daily, is reflected in job

after deleting those jira comments only, I decided to be strict on the two language policy

shrini: well, yeah, I really fathome the whatsapp groups here.. most of the messages are mixed hinglish, fucking assholes start with english and suddenly yaar.. comes then switches to hinglish

shrini: they don't even care that there are people in the group who don't know hinglish

if someone asks any question in tanglish, தென் ஐ ரிப்ளை லைக் திஸ்.

shrini: :)

then, they switch to english or தமிழ்

follow the same thing on WA groups too and enjoy the fun

shrini: I should start writing in தமிழ் in those groups once I see hinglish

thats is the best way to handle them